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    I am looking for arrangements that are mutually beneficial to workers and capital owners.
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    "title": "Non exhausting labour"
    "summary": "The funny thing about workers is that they pay their own bills AND the bills of the employer (assuming a company is cash flow positive), whereas the employer only puts up an initial set of funding, which gets expired, and they rely on workers for income, so why do capital owners get paid again and again for the same funding but workers don&#x27;t?"
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    "title": "Minimum flow rate minimum pay"
    "summary": "The problem with minimum pay is the Iron Law of Wages is that everything leads to 0 over time. Imagine a flexible pricing system where the pricing is set to set a minimum break even for the supplier"
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  - "id": "r-302001"
    "mtrans": |

        Gitlab は休止中の GitLab プロジェクトをアーカイブしています。 freshmeat.net は、新しいオープン ソース プロジェクトを見つけるために使用したサイトです。残念ながら、彼らはサイトの更新を停止しました。そして、freshcode.club に置き換えられました。
        
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481
        
        問題は普遍的です。誰かが誰かのために何かをし続けるためには、何らかの見返りが必要です。フリーランチは永遠に続くわけではありません。

    "text": |
        Gitlab is archiving dormant GitLab projects. and freshmeat.net was a site I did use for finding new open source projects. Unfortunately they stopped updating the site. And we're replaced by freshcode.club
        
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481
        
        The problem is universal. For someone to keep doing something for someone else, there needs to be some return. The free lunch doesn't last forever.
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    "created": "2022-08-04T12:47:00.962985"
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  - "id": "r-303001"
    "mtrans": |

        私の意見では、クロスには最も重要なポイントである時間が欠けています。すべてのプロジェクトの基礎を作成するには時間が必要ですが、残念ながらそれはすべての中で最も希少なリソースです。資金提供者は、資金調達のために MVP (実用最小限の製品) を求めます。 MVP を作成する時間がない限り、最初からチャンスはありません。そして、MVP の後でのみ、サイクルを開始できます。

    "text": |
        In my opinion the cross missing the most critical point, which is time. Time is required to create a basis for every project and sadly it's the most scarce resource of all. Funders will ask for a MVP (minimum viable product) for funding. Unless you have time to create a MVP you will have no chance from the beginning. And only after MVP the cycle can start.
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    "created": "2022-08-06T07:59:57.750990"
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  - "id": "r-304001"
    "mtrans": |

        [thekhan] ええと、まさにそれが私たちが解決したい問題です: 人々が論理的に意味のあるアイデアを持ち、それに取り組み始め、それが実現した瞬間から資金を得られるようにすることです:
        
        - (A) 論理的には理にかなっている
        - (B) 時間とリソースを喜んで投入する人

    "text": |
        [thekhan], Well, that's exactly the problem that we want to solve: to enable people with an idea, that makes logical sense, to start working on it, and get funded for doing it from the moment when it:
        
        - (A) logically makes sense 
        - (B) someone is willing to put their time and resources to it
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    "created": "2022-08-06T12:36:04.070522"
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